Avatar (2009): The Movie, The Hype, The Review

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By jellydonut25

Theatrical poster for Avatar, the 2009 "hype of the year"
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Theatrical poster for Avatar, the 2009 "hype of the year"

All this hype and it's not over the story OR the actors

Fair warning sugar-junkies, this review contains some spoilers; nothing that I think would ruin the experience of seeing the movie (I only summarize the first hour or so), but if you want a wholly clean review where there's opinions given without any plot synopsis, this is NOT the place to look.

It’s not very often that a movie is hyped to epic proportions before its release solely on the basis of the man BEHIND the camera (though to be fair, when a movie is hyped purely by who appears on the screen, especially in the case of some sort of all-star ensemble, it usually sucks). Sure, there’s Spielberg but even he comes out with the occasional dud (Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull anyone?) and Scorsese’s films have begun to pale in comparison to his earlier work. Also, in general, these men (and others such as Francis Ford Coppola, Robert Zemeckis, George Lucas, etc) have large bodies of work and few (if any) complete wastes of time. Then we have James Cameron. Piranha II, his directorial debut, is as much a waste of time as its title suggests and should be avoided like the plague, and the man has only directed eight feature films in the 28 years between his debut film and today. Even Peter Jackson, who isn’t exactly a directing-machine is on pace to direct something like fourteen films in twenty –eight years. It’s a reasonable question to ask just exactly WHAT Cameron has been up to for those 28 years…

If you believe Cameron, he spent ten of those 28 years working on one film, Avatar (I’m not sure how much I believe that…wading through the marketing bullcrap and factual information can be a bit of a pain; but that’s his story and he’s sticking to it). Perhaps that fact hits the nail closest to the head on why Avatar has received so much hype; when a filmmaker who has made some of the highest-grossing films ever spends ten years working on his first science fiction film (the genre that made him famous in the first place) since the early-1990s and is called a revolutionary picture that will change the way movies are made forever and the best film from the director ever (never mind the fact that it was the egotistical director himself making those statements), then a movie is GOING to get hyped. But will it live up to that hype?


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The Easiest story to Summarize

The story, such as it is (or isn’t) is as follows: Jake Sully our main character wakes up after five-plus years of cryo-sleep on his trip to an alien-world called Pandora. He is there because his brother was involved in something called The Avatar Program, and due to them being twins and having the same sets of genomes, Jake can fill in for his now-deceased brother. The Avatar Program exists because Pandora is the only known place in the universe to find a rare mineral known as unobtainium (the fact that a name like unobtainium is being thrown around with a straight face should let you in on the fact that this movie is not the most intelligently scripted film of the year; why not just call it ‘difficultofindium,’ ‘rarium,’ or ‘awesomium’?) and the natives of Pandora, a race known as the Na’vi are not to keen on man using their planet like a stripe-mine. Thus, avatars were bred from Na’vi/human DNA splicing so human controllers could walk around looking like Na’vi in order to infiltrate their villages and establish some sense of trust between the two groups. In other words, humans want to shake the Na’vi’s hand with one hand and punch them square in the face with another.

Sully meets his avatar for the first time...it's one of only a small handful of time Jake and his avatar are on-screen together
Sully meets his avatar for the first time...it's one of only a small handful of time Jake and his avatar are on-screen together
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I could stop here, but that just wouldn't be my style

The above paragraph is essentially all you need to know plot-wise about Avatar in order to figure out nearly every single plot twist and turn along the way of this extremely predictable film, but just for kicks, and since I always attempt to do the best job possible in my reviews, I’ll flesh it out a bit more.

Jake (Sam Worthington of Terminator Salvation and the forthcoming Clash of the Titans remake) is only accepted into the avatar program by Dr. Grace Augustine (Sigourney Weaver, the original female action hero from Alien and Ghostbusters, who’s serviceable in this movie but at times seems to be mailing it in) because Parker Selfridge (Giovanni Ribisi – Public Enemies and Saving Private Ryan), the Pandora representative of RDA Company (aka, Really Devilish American company, because every corporate entity is EVIL; remember that, kids) has basically told her to use him or nobody because there’s no way they are going to get the money needed to train anybody new AND breed a new Avatar just on ONE person’s account. Jake’s an ex-marine (although in one of the better touches of character development in the film, Jake reminds us that there is no such thing as an EX-marine) who lost the use of his legs…somehow…and is largely pumped to be in The Avatar Program when he finds that through his avatar he can walk again. He’s also planning, with the help of Col. Quaritch (The Men who Stare at Goats’ Stephen Lang) to relay useful strategic intel on the Na’vi back to the military arm of the human operations on Pandora so that the inevitable attack on the Na’vi can be leaned as far in favor of the humans as possible.

"I can't get enough of this jellydonut guy's reviews." 'I know, they're incredible.'
"I can't get enough of this jellydonut guy's reviews." 'I know, they're incredible.'

What do you mean you've heard this story before? It's as original as Shary Bobbins!

(PS If you don't know who Shary Bobbins is...CLICK IT) Grace ultimately catches wind of the regular talks between Jake and Quaritch and as such, she has the members of The Avatar Program relocate to a remote location so that Jake’s contact with Quaritch is limited at best.

Meanwhile, Jake has been accepted by the Na’vi people into their warrior/hunter training program after Neytiri (Zoe Saldana, Star Trek 2009’s Uhura, who shows a complete lack of emotional range, even for a fully CG-rendered character), the heir-apparent to the shaman-like position of holiness among the Na’vi who has also been monitoring and following Jake, believes she has been given a sign from Eywa, the Na’vi deity, that he has a strong heart. It’s also kind of a “let’s see” for the Na’vi people as a whole. Jake introduces himself as a former warrior, so they aim to put his claim to the ultimate test and find out just how strong his warrior-spirit is (my oh my, if this doesn’t sound quite a bit like Dances with Wolves…).

The "over the shoulder make sure he's aiming straight" stuff is a dead give-away that they are about to fall in love, that's what happened with me and my wife...we fell in love aiming an arrow at a target, practicing for an assault on a human outpost
The "over the shoulder make sure he's aiming straight" stuff is a dead give-away that they are about to fall in love, that's what happened with me and my wife...we fell in love aiming an arrow at a target, practicing for an assault on a human outpost

Sure, there's lots of analogies, but they all say the same thing

Jake and Neytiri fall in love, but when RDA decides the time for diplomacy is over and they NEED to get the unobtainium NOW…well: Jake has to decide whether to tell his love that he has (at least in-name if not in-fact) secretly been an agent working AGAINST her and her people all along while simultaneously deciding where his allegiances lie and a battle of epic proportions is looming between the Na’vi and the human contingent on Pandora but will the arrow-shooting, horse-riding Na’vi stand a chance against the gun-toting cowboys…I mean, American military…I mean, white supremacists (seriously, find me ONE person who’s aligned on the ‘bad’ side that’s of a different ethnicity than white Anglo-Saxon)…I mean, humans?

Dr. Grace Augustine and her avatar
Dr. Grace Augustine and her avatar

Let's get the bad news out of the way first

We’ve got some problems here. Let’s start with the film itself before I start ripping James Cameron for being the most egotistical man alive (except for perhaps Roland Emmerich) and I’m hounded by fans of Avatar for only disliking its director and presenting no good arguments against the film itself. The story is simplistic. Like, REALLY simplistic. Like, “a movie enthusiast will probably figure out the entire plot about halfway through” simplistic. There are no shades of gray in this movie beyond those of Jake Sully himself.

The corporation and the humans are EVIL (Quaritch specifically) and the Na’vi are good. It’s so black and white that only ONE human being in the entire film does anything heroic in their human body and not their Na’vi avatar. In general, only the Na’vi are evidently ALLOWED to do anything kind-hearted, a sort of heavy-handed, “America sucks” attitude that grates on my nerves. Sure, you could look at the movie as a cowboys and Indians parable or (perhaps more accurately, considering the phrase “Shock and awe” is actually used) equate it to the much more recent events of the Iraq War, and fans of the movie will support it as being the greatest thing in the history of cinema for having so many “layers” but when every single layer of a movie and every single interpretation says the same thing (that the predominantly white upper class corporate world and big government is EVIL) then can you really make the claim that it’s multi-layered?

I’ve heard of an original scripment of the film where the Na’vi are far more aggressive (going so far as to STRIKE FIRST and be the main cause of human attacks) that, in my opinion, would have added an excellent shade of gray to the movie (there’s a link to a discussion of the original scripment in the LINKS section, but for the uninitiated, CLICK HERE - fair warning, SPOILERS ABOUND). Having a Na’vi pre-emptively attack the invading humans wouldn’t make them EVIL, or lessen the EVIL of the invaders, it would just make them more REAL. If they attack first, they are simply defending their territory, but also pose an actual threat to the human operations and serve some motive behind the heavy-handed approach the humans are willing to take. Instead, the movie opts to depict the Na’vi as so gentle and kind-hearted that it’s almost hard to believe they even have a hunter/warrior class at all.

It really IS a triumph of CGI though...
It really IS a triumph of CGI though...

Maybe it's a bit nitpicky, but when the female LEAD evokes no emotion other than indifference, it's a bit harder to get into it

I’ve already touched on my problems with the acting, in particular the soullessness of Zoe Saldana, but I’d also like to add on the acting front that a lot of the bit-players got on my nerves. The script calls for our human bit-parts to be essentially clones of Bill Paxton’s character in Aliens and while they say all the right lines (I can only imagine how many fanboys had to change their shorts when the line, “Come on! Yeah! Oh you want some of this?” was uttered), they do so without ANY of the passion, emotion, or borderline snarky sarcasm that Paxton says them with in the far superior source-film.

I'd also like to add that I think the alien designs in District 9 are generally better since they are more alien in appearance...but I get why they are as easily accessible and less "alien" looking here...

I remember seeing Star Trek earlier this year and being stunned by the visuals...Avatar's visual appeal makes that movie look like the outer-space equivalent of 2003's The Hulk...
I remember seeing Star Trek earlier this year and being stunned by the visuals...Avatar's visual appeal makes that movie look like the outer-space equivalent of 2003's The Hulk...
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Mr. Cameron, I will be awaiting a call from your attorneys...

Now I believe I’ll lambast Cameron. Clearly, he isn’t able to get the best performances out of his actors and he definitely fell into the “look how shiny this is” trap on this movie. As I mentioned above, he actually puts in lines straight from the mouths of the marines of Aliens, but doesn’t bother to have them said RIGHT, just said. He knows that the target audience of this film will recognize those lines and gleefully fangasm at their mere utterance, and that’s all he’s aiming for. He leaves a lot of Pandora unexplained, which is fine by me (I enjoy a bit of whimsy and wonder) but I also feel like he didn’t explain things to his actors either and they deliver a lot of their lines as though they are not certain they are delivering the RIGHT line.

Cameron’s also an egomaniac. He’s on record saying such things as, “[Avatar] makes Titanic look like a picnic,” and has claimed it is going to revolutionize the film world; he even went so far as to declare the day the first preview hit “Avatar Day.” I guess that’s neither here nor there, but it could go a long way to explain why the movie feels so heavy-handed and preachy. Though Cameron has said, and may actually BELIEVE that his mission is simply to entertain and not to preach, his track record shows that he pretty much thinks his opinion is more worthwhile than yours or mine anyway.

That said, perhaps he has reason to be. With the exception of Pirhana II and True Lies, every single one of his movies is of fairly large historical significance in the cinema world. The Abyss was one of the first movies to convincingly use computer-generated effects and Titanic (in addition to pulling in HUGE amounts of money and Oscars) is world-renown for the attention to detail in recreation of the cruise ship. Let’s not forget this man also established the Terminator franchise, introduced all-time special effects MASTER Stan Winston to the world at large, and while Terminator 2 may be a cliché ridden huge dumb action movie, it ESTABLISHED a lot of those clichés and created some of the most memorable effects sequences in the history of film. Still, making a few good movies isn’t license to be a complete butthead (and I eagerly await the inevitable comments below where I will be reminded that REVIEWING a few good movies gives yours truly even less of a license to be a complete butthead)

Unfortunately, none of the pictures I can get right now do any justice to the visuals...
Unfortunately, none of the pictures I can get right now do any justice to the visuals...

Backing off the criticism

Here’s the part where I admit a basic truth: I am being overly harsh in my appraisal. Visually, this film floored me. I was left nearly breathless by the sweeping scenery of Pandora and the amount of detail that went into crafting an entire world. It’s also a triumph of CG effects work, easily boasting the best looking computer graphics of any movie to date and some of the technology used in its filming actually MIGHT revolutionize the way films are made (some of the cameras they used to film it and the updated motion-capture for facial features stuff seemed REALLY interesting). Cameron is also able to do something MichaelBay could never DREAM of doing. He’s able to let us GAWK AT his effects. Rather than blitz us with constant motion (I know for a FACT that I wasn’t the only person confused as to who was fighting whom in end battle of Transformers), Cameron has enough confidence to just let his stare at everything and drink it all in. From that point, the movie is EXTREMELY refreshing. So much of movie making has become trying to TRICK people into thinking the effects were awesome, but Avatar delivers in spades on effects work.

Honestly, I'm pretty sure  ALL the Na'vi effects were CGI, despite how realistic and "makeupy" this shot looks...
Honestly, I'm pretty sure ALL the Na'vi effects were CGI, despite how realistic and "makeupy" this shot looks...

Very difficult to rate

Avatar is a difficult movie for me to analyze critically. On the one hand, the story is clichéd, the acting ranges all over the place from very good (Lang, Worthington, and occasionally Weaver) to hackneyed and emotionless (Saldana and many of the smaller-role people), and the dialogue is about as whimsically written as something Michael Bay would come up with (NOT a compliment); but on the other hand, the visuals are absolutely STUNNING, the level of detail that went into creating Pandora and making CERTAIN that one does not ever think or say “oh, that looks just like such and such a place on Earth,” is mind-blowing, and I’d be lying if I said I didn’t enjoy my experience or if I said the three-hour run time seemed to crawl by. (How do you rate a movie that simultaneously entertained and disappointed you...that you can understand to some extent why people love it but you don't love it yourself?)

It’s even more difficult for me to rate because I feel like some of the innovations used here may actually revolutionize the film industry and when people look back ten years from now and say, “This motion-capture stuff is SO much easier than it was just ten years ago,” we will have Avatar and Cameron to thank for it. That said, I feel I should ask, does being the FIRST to do something mean it HAS to be considered one of the BEST? The Sex Pistols were practically the first punk band, but I think the Ramones blow them out of the water ANY day of the week. Historically significant and good are two totally different things (just watch Bride of Frankenstein for confirmation). Also, I’ve NEVER rated a movie based solely on one viewing. Even my review of the relatively new movie The Hangover came after repeat viewings and DVD release. I’ve only seen Avatar once and my thoughts on it are such a jumbled confusion of weighing the pros and cons that I feel as though I need to see the movie again in order to wrap my head around it. Perhaps that means it’s good; typically a movie that warrants multiple viewings (and that I actually am WILLING to view multiple times) is pretty good…but pretty good and “best movie ever” (as many people have come away from Avatar thinking, despite the fact that District 9 could lay better claim to the title in the science-fiction realm for 2009) are two EXTREMELY different things.

Final Rating below. I think time may look less favorably upon Avatar than my final rating does, and if you don’t see the movie in 3D I can almost guarantee you won’t be as floored as you could have been, but I’ll give credit where it’s due. I was entertained and the pioneering of new technologies allows me to overlook some of the movie's less glaring shortcomings and dismiss some of the movie's more glaring ones. My feelings toward it are all over the place, occasionally softening to the point where I think I LOVED it, occasionally becoming chillier than a winter’s morn in Buffalo…I think I would have liked for a more capable STORYTELLER to direct this movie. For a detailed explanation of my ratings system and a full index of all my reviews, just CLICK HERE.

The final rating in this case might be a not-so-final rating and may change after I've had multiple viewings...up or down half a sprinkle

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Definitely worth your time. Definitely entertaining. Definitely not the best movie of the year. OR just go see it yourself and tell me how wrong I am...
Definitely worth your time. Definitely entertaining. Definitely not the best movie of the year. OR just go see it yourself and tell me how wrong I am...

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bat115 2 years ago

Very enjoyable review. especially love that you say " The Sex Pistols were practically the first punk band, but I think the Ramones blow them out of the water ANY day of the week" I agree with that statement. even though it says nothing about Avatar.

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jellydonut25 Hub Author 2 years ago

I was just trying to emphasize that something can be historically significant (ie, Avatar, The Sex Pistols) but that doesn't mean it's the BEST...Avatar may be the FIRST movie to use some of its technology, but my gut feeling is that ten years from now, it will not be looked back on as the BEST.

Glad you enjoyed the review!

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bat115 2 years ago

good analysis

Madame X 2 years ago

jelly- you write beautifully! I am extremely impressed with your observations on this movie, but let me first say that I haven't seen it and don't plan on seeing it, simply because of it's over-the-top programming of evil white guys vs. the gentle, can-do-no-wrong "other" guys. That, and the fact that I can't stand Cameron (yes, I saw Titanic, but I just HATE IT when someone tries to program me!).

This is an excellent review in every respect. Thanks :)

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jellydonut25 Hub Author 2 years ago

Thank you for the comment Madame and yeah, I agree that my opinion of Cameron has fallen off quite a bit over the years. I would encourage you to see the movie in theaters if you plan on seeing it at all, simply due to the spectacle of the entire thing.

As I was working up a review of District 9 (hope to have it up in the next couple days) I realized that perhaps I too was won over by the absolutely AMAZING effects work and have subsequently looked upon this movie more favorably than I would have had I not seen it in 3D. If nothing else, the spectacle/experience/hype of Avatar is interesting, even if the film lacks in certain areas.

Glad you enjoyed the review and thank you again for the very kind words regarding my writing.

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glendoncaba Level 1 Commenter 2 years ago

Great review. Now I wait for the DVD to come out. But I have promised my son that we would watch it together in 3D. This means going to multiplex where technology is available.

I avoid the cinema...Is there a way to get 3D effects at home?

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jellydonut25 Hub Author 2 years ago

I wouldn't AVOID the cinema if you don't have a good reason to do so. While it may be a dumbed down movie with bad dialogue and a predictable plot, but seeing it in 3D in theaters is quite an experience.

There are 3D DVDs but they just aren't the same and you need to have a TV that is 3D capable...

M Amell 2 years ago

Am I the only one who doesn't buy that all alien life forms would be humanoid? The odds of that happening are so ridiculously low, but yet nearly every movie made with any alien species has them with two legs, two arms and human features.. Why not a 6 armed creature with eyes of bees and have giant stingers attached and who DON'T automatically know the English language?

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jellydonut25 Hub Author 2 years ago

I'd say the "English" complaint here is pretty invalid, as we have been in contact with the Na'vi for YEARS...so, the language complaint doesn't hold much water.

As for the non-humanoid complaint, one COULD argue that there's dozens of lifeforms on Pandora and not ALL of them are humanoid in appearance...I'm not personally going to because I only thought Avatar was OK and not GREAT, so I'm not going to go to bat in its defense.

Thanks for the comment, Amell!

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William "eL-NinO" 2 years ago

Wow.. great review!! enjoy reading it! im a avatar fan! ^_^

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jellydonut25 Hub Author 2 years ago

Thanks for the comment. I wouldn't call myself an Avatar fan...2009 actually featured some very good sci-fi like District 9, and Duncan Jones' Moon; but Avatar wasn't a bad movie by any means

TattoGuy 2 years ago

Fantastic review but I loved the Movie and deff think it's the best movie for years !

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jellydonut25 Hub Author 2 years ago

Appreciate the comment Tatto, but I'll always maintain that this is an average film that's bolstered by amazing effects work.

Stuff like the word "unobtanium" and saying "enhance" while staring at paused video, the idea that unplugging an Avatar is dangerous and yet it happens more than a couple times with no consequence, Stephen Lang being able to hold his breath for a ridiculously long time otherwise there'd be no final battle between him and Worthington, rejection of technology despite the fact that technology is absolutely the only reason Worthington is on Pandora, the fact that they spent MILLIONS of dollars on each avatar in a futuristic society and yet put ABSOLUTELY no tracking devices or GPS locator chips in them, the EXTREMELY anti-military anti-American sentiments, and a battle mech KNIFE FIGHT are all just corny or legitimate plot holes that point out that Cameron just wanted to do Titanic's love story in outer space with amazing effects work...

I feel as though I wouldn't even have liked the movie in 2D on my TV...but I'll have to wait for the blu-ray to make that judgment

Simona Acting 2 years ago

I loved this movie. I think the storyline is great and the actors did a great job too. The human emotion is so accurately portrayed that it's very entertaining to watch.

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jellydonut25 Hub Author 2 years ago

Thanks for the comment Simona!

While I don't think any less of anyone that likes this movie and I can appreciate that it has many fans, I don't think the acting is much.

Lang and Worthington each do a really good job but beyond that, most of the characters are typical stereotypes and cliches and the acting doesn't make them anything more...

It's a VERY entertaining film, on that front I agree, but a lot of the acting is very one-note and it's unfortunate that the lead lady (Zoe Saldana) is by far one of the worst performers in the film.

Taco 2 years ago

You're just jealous because James Cameron is richer than you.

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TravisBickle 2 years ago

Oh snap. Did you really just play that card Taco? That's almost as lame as the "Do you know who I am?" card.

A friend of mine told me about an article he read where, they took the story of the Pocahontas movie and changed the names of the main characters to fit the main characters of Avatar, and the story was nearly identical.

Now that was news to me, for two reasons. One, I never saw Pocahontas, and two, I just assumed the Avatar story was a rip-off of Dances With Wolves, not Pocahontas. But it wouldn't shock me that he ripped off Pocahontas instead, because the storyline was kindergarten, at best. Great, Great effects in Avatar, and for that, Cameron should be praised, but please don't try to tell me the story was great and original.

I leave more personality in tightly coiled piles on the lawn. See if you can dissect the irony of what I just said, you tool.

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jellydonut25 Hub Author 2 years ago

http://turbo.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2010/01/poca

It might not be so much an ARTICLE as it is like a grade-schooler's paper...but it works pretty darn well.

Taco, I'm not saying Avatar SUCKS, just that it's not so good that it should be causing massive bouts of people claiming they REALLY are Na'vi deep-inside (which it is) nor is it so good that it should be causing massive amounts of people to slip into deep depression when they realize Pandora isn't real (which it is).

This movie's getting praised as one of the best things of all-time while movies with original stories and SUPERB acting (like Inglourious Basterds, and a host of movies I haven't even seen yet like Hurt Locker, Precious and Single Man - and if we're talking about ANIMATED fair, UP was better than Avatar) are getting snubbed just because JAMES CAMERON didn't direct them. It's kind of sad.

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Darren Moverley 2 years ago

What you consider to be simplistic could equally be read as universal. This is a film that has now prompted comment from the Vatican and caused a number of people to feel depressed that their world doesn’t have the vibrancy of Pandora. Clearly it has a power to prompt thought and reflection that blockbuster don’t usually possess. Cameron’s intention with Avatar is to get people to think differently about the natural world and he has succeeded in doing that.

There are of cause parallels between Cameron’s story and other films that attempt to identify with tribal people such as Dances with Wolves and even Ferngully. Even so, Cameron’s vision is timely. This was a film that encouraged people to see that corporate interest and military power are two sides of the same coin. It suggests that if there is a lucrative resource to plunder, we will be prepared to destroy the environment and civilisations to exploit it. The sky-people aren’t portrayed as evil, just ignorant through greed. This is epitomized by the Giovanni Risbi character who isn’t evil, just indifferent which in a way, is more disturbing. The Na’vi understand a connection with nature is empowering. I’ve been travelling to many places this year in and around Asia and anyone I met who had a connection with the natural world were far happier than the wealthiest people I’ve met in the West. There are universal truths in Avatar that people need reminding of.

Out of all your comments the negative reflection on the performance by Zoe Saldana is the one I disagree most with. Her performance was primal and soulful – she was a force of nature in Avatar, it’s rare to see a female performance with such heart and spirit. I have a feeling you are playing Devil’s advocate with some of your comments.

I’ve written a film review about Avatar on my page which pays tribute to the spiritual side to the film. I don’t think however that Avatar will signal a dawning of a new age in 3D. 3D is not the future of cinema – a specify why on my page.

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antonrosa 2 years ago

Now this was a great movie in 3D!

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jellydonut25 Hub Author 2 years ago

Come on Darren, when Saldana was "weeping" over her dead father, I literally rolled my eyes. I've never once done that before. Her performance is completely one-note, just like pretty much every character except for Lang and Worthington. I thought she was pretty much terrible.

And as for the "look differently at nature" stuff...I just think that's bull. From that angle, this movie is PROPAGANDA! It's not thought-provoking. Cameron is only showing us one side of the argument, only one side of the situation...he's painting in blacks and whites, refusing to look at any shades of gray. In the real world, there is no way an attack like the one the humans undertake (not once but TWICE) would be allowed to move forward without SOME sort of violence against human beings first. And thinking Ribisi's character isn't evil is just as dangerous as thinking the devil isn't real. This guy would have you shot just as soon as he'd look at you. Just because he's not the one that's pulling giant mecha-knives on the Na'vi doesn't mean he's any less a villain...he's like Piet Smit in District 9 - just because he's not the guy actually COMMITTING the atrocities doesn't mean he sits on any side other than advocacy of them.

Anybody that gets depressed that Pandora isn't as vibrant as the real-world is a straight-up FOOL, who's just joyless and even IF Pandora were real (and thank GOD it's not, no way would I want to be a 12 foot tall blue furry that's constantly hunted by wild dogs and pterodactyls and has no TV or video games) they would STILL find something to WHINE about (like the wild dogs trying to eat them).

It seems you have the exact OPPOSITE view of this film that I do. I think it is potentially capable of ushering in some new technology to the film world, but the story is as biased and rudimentary as Al Gore's PowerPoint presentation about inconvenient truths...not that it should be surprising, most of Hollywood is FULL of that type of black and white thinking because people who have money can afford to think in absolutes. The rest of us have to consider the gray areas.

and anton, I agree, the 3D experience was incredible! I'm wondering how it's going to look in blu-ray on my TV in 6 months or so...

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jellydonut25 Hub Author 2 years ago

Please don't turn the comments section into a name-calling flame-war (this is in regards to a comment I have blocked).

Also Taco, since I'm sure at least you remember what was written in the blocked comment, Bickle's avatar is clearly Robert DeNiro and not an actual picture of himself.

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bengriston 2 years ago

I enjoyed the movie. The CG alone was worth the money. The story was ok, but I kept having flashbacks to a kids movie Ferngully that my daughter used to watch.

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jellydonut25 Hub Author 2 years ago

Ferngully, Pocahontas...at the end of the day, this is like a kids movie marketed towards adults with a rehashed story.

It doesn't scream "Best Picture" to me, and I can't understand those people who say it has changed their lives...

CGI - TOTALLY worth it though, agreed on that point

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TravisBickle 2 years ago

Hey Darren, did you ever think people might actually believe in their opinions, and aren't just playing devil's advocate? James Cameron could have done so much more with the story to make it original and groundbreaking but he chose to take the easy way out and appeal to the biggest audience and blow everyone away with the visuals so he could make the most money. To think otherwise is giving him too much credit in my opinion. The guy pretty much created an entire world with his brain, I think he could have come up with a better story with more interesting characters to support his creation. Avatar was very good but not great, that is just my opinion after one viewing, it may change. It had the potential to be great but the story and characters were lacking.

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jellydonut25 Hub Author 2 years ago

Yeah, it's a bit disappointing that a guy whose imagination thought of pony-tail tendrils that allow a higher form of communication than we could ever dream of couldn't think of better dialogue or a more original plot.

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peggypat 2 years ago

Thanks for the great review.. I had heard the movie was Fern Gully meets the Smurfs.. but with fabulous fx. I guess I will see it eventually... but what you have said certainly supports what other critics I respect have told me. Thanks!

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jellydonut25 Hub Author 2 years ago

I definitely wouldn't discourage you from seeing it, peggy. In fact, there are very few movies I'd ever discourage people from seeing...a movie would have to get a zero rating for me to tell someone to stay away.

This movie is one you want to try to see in theaters...Imax 3D if possible...it's kind of like Cloverfield in that respect...might not be a GREAT film, but the theater experience is a great one.

Thanks for the comment!

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Izzy Anne 2 years ago

I loved the flowers, hated the film. I have seen and read that romantic view of "other" cultures many times. If you read about colonialism, you will find that one of the ways in which it works is that you create a good-evil dichtonomy and that it does not matter on which side you put your own culture.

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jellydonut25 Hub Author 2 years ago

That's a pretty interesting point Izzy. Thanks for the comment! I definitely agree with it being a romanticized view of the "other" culture.

It's funny, the more I sit and THINK about this film, the less I like it, but when I suspend my brain and remember the movie itself and the experience of seeing it, I remember it being pretty good if more than a bit predictable.

R.G. San Ramon 2 years ago

Everything looked pocahontas to me. :P I think that's a good thing, because the message was resent, and many people watched it, although I don't know if the correlation of those who understood and who watched the movie is high enough to be considered significant. The bad thing, though, is that it lacks originality and depth. A new world, with unique people and culture, is sooo not original; and the movie did not even show enough complexity to be intellectually appealing. However, like you have said, the effects...WOW! So it's still entertaining, but not necessarily the best thing. ;)

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stephensaldana 2 years ago

The movie which come out to be a huge commercial hit and widely acclaimed across the globe. The story, script, character selection, locations etc, each and every bit, was sparking. The movies with total dynamism and hugely thought provoking. I give it, ten out of ten points. I had never seen such a movie ever before. It was simply awesome.

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samironwebtrack 2 years ago

very good movie

Hoppy 2 years ago

A good review, but I think you missed the mark on the story/plot. Having the Na'vi bravely and heroicly attack first, even against completely overwhelming odds, does not make the story any more REAL, it makes it more LIKE A MOVIE. Without the humans attacking first, the Na'vi clans would not have rallied together. Any attack would have certainly failed, and the movie would be dead right there. For there to actually be a movie based around this plot, you'd need to rely on the far LESS realistic idea that the Na'vi would actually stand a chance (pose a threat, as you said) in an offensive attack on the human base and not get completely steam-rolled (which they would).

You make the same mistake when you write:

"In the real world, there is no way an attack like the one the humans undertake (not once but TWICE) would be allowed to move forward without SOME sort of violence against human beings first"

When our own history books tell us very differently. The storyline in Avatar is simplistic and cliche I agree, but that's because it IS real (not literally, I'm not one of those nuts).

Not everything is black and white, and not all humans/corporations are evil, but SOME are, and I think the film shows that and only that. I can think of several humans who, in their human bodies, took heroic actions in the film (perhaps you missed them, or our definitions of heroic differ). I can also think of several real corporations who would in all likelyhood act the exact same way as was portryed. This still doesn't make it multi-layered or complex, but real life isn't always those things either.

You should stop thinking about this as a movie with a script, and allow yourself to pretend that this is something that actually happened, and you'll realize that how it was written is very possibly how it WOULD happen. I'm betting that was Cameron's goal, and regardless of his attributes as a person, in my opinion it's what makes this such an incredible movie.

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jellydonut25 Hub Author 2 years ago

Thanks for all the comments.

RG - I definitely agree with your appraisal.

Hoppy - I think you should check out the link to the scripment...the initial attack by the Na'vi is one that comes when humans aren't expecting it...it's like an ambush, a guerilla tactic, much like the Native Americans used on the invading Europeans...the mere PRESENCE of the imperialists is a slap in the face enough for the tribes to become outraged and band together and become violent...but by removing such sentiments from the film, Cameron makes it THAT much more unbelievable when the Na'vi actually stand their ground against the "sky people" and seriously, sky people...come on! make them sound a bit MORE obviously like Native Americans - after teaching these people to speak english, I'm sure they could teach them the word EARTHLING! but like I said, Avatar has all the subtlety of a steel-toed boot to the face

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Mitch King 2 years ago

I know the director wanted this to be the next Star Wars, but it is not. It was entertaining and worth the money I spent, but I will not see it again.

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jellydonut25 Hub Author 2 years ago

Thanks for the comment Mitch! Nice observation too...

I think it can largely be attributed to Star Wars having real, believable characters that the audience liked and identified with while Avatar has allegorical characters that are meant to represent GROUPS more than individuals. It brings your ability to identify with Sully down a notch and ends up taking you out of the movie a touch.

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XprtEase 2 years ago

Hi again jd25,

nice to read your detailed review. I will however still stick to my guns and just as I wrote in my own review: http://hubpages.com/hub/OnlyAvatar - the movie blew me away.

I would definitely watch it again if it weren't for the high ticket prices :) to enjoy the experience once again. Furthermore, I myself hail from a culture that has similar beliefs to the Na'vi and in that respect I can relate to them. I can understand their behavior and also credit Cameron for almost getting it right as to how any endangered tribe or species would respond, despite the movie's obvious cliche's! Yes maybe the terminology used - as you point out Earthling vis-a-vis SkyPeople are valid points - but I think they are minor issues.

I think the general trend of dissecting a movie too much, for me, is in a way going overboard - as sometimes one should just go to the theaters and enjoy the movie, the experience and forget the smaller technical issues.

Going back to Mitch's comments and your own, while I agree with you on people identifying with individual characters in StarWars, there is nothing wrong in identifying oneself with a particular group also - which I am sure many people do. I would actually equate them on the same level and which is why I didn't for one bit feel left out. In fact when the gyrocopters blow down the "tree of life" I actually felt a lump of sorrow in my own throat. The expression on the faces of the Na'vi itself spoke for themselves. No words - no cliche - no speech - just a shocked expression coupled with grief. That to me was one of the best bits of acting from even the unknown actors.

I am actually inclined to be so bold to even say that the perception of this movie is going to me markedly different from those of the east and those of the west. Call it the cultural divide if you may but I would be happy to see some stats on it if possible - as in was the movie enjoyed more in the east than the west?

Cheers

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jellydonut25 Hub Author 2 years ago

Xprtease, thanks for the comment. Just for the record, I think it's against Hubpages policy to post a link to one of your own hubs in a comment, but I really figured that wasn't your intent here since you left some thoughtful commentary.

I agree that a movie CAN be enjoyed in a "turn your brain off and enjoy" fashion, but I don't at all think it's possible to call a movie GREAT when it's unenjoyable beyond the "turn your brain off" level. How can you defend something as being a GREAT film when there's absolutely NOTHING to it other than what you see on the screen? I would say that makes for a GOOD movie, which my review says that Avatar is...but it's not GREAT.

I can honestly say that I felt no emotional response to this film at all...maybe that's because I truly don't find environmentalism to be anything other than an annoyance and an inconvenience, but I don't seem to be completely alone in my feelings that the characters are difficult to identify with and I have found myself caring about characters whose beliefs I don't particularly care for in movies before (like how I really liked Johnny Depp's character in Public Enemies, despite the fact that I would probably never be like him at all).

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XprtEase 2 years ago

hey jd25,

sorry i didn't know about the hubpage policy but I mentioned it only to reflect the true nature of my feeling for the movie which my initial words in my own review - written almost immediately after seeing the movie - summarized it for me atleast. I guess it was more related to my emotional response rather than anything else.

Anyway, my immersive experience of seeing it in 3D and getting blown away by the originality and reality of the imagined world (am a logical scientist by profession) and the identification aspect of it as explained earlier all combined to make an enjoyable experience. Yes, I did shut off my brain at certain points for the sake of enjoyment because the movie of course has its flaws if you want to look for it and many too. I mean I can sit and grumble about 100 years into the future, why is the spaceship and the humans that have gone to Pandora filled with mainly whites. One would expect that keeping in mind the current rate of globalization and mixing of cultures that 100 years down the line all professions would have a mixed ethnicity - something the movie fails to show except for a couple of characters. Then as others have raised you can also question the humanoid nature of Na'vi? but again if you have ever seen Carl Sagan's COSMOS, you will realize that the probability of another earthlike planet or even humanoids is not as bleak as it is made to be. I can understand your disconnect to the movie in contrast to my connectivity which I pinpoint to something completely different of course. I just hope that as you too wish for the movie to be more grey than black and white, the connectivity that any particular audience can feel for this movie is also not black or white - the only thing probably lacking in otherwise great review.

Cheers

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jellydonut25 Hub Author 2 years ago

Thanks for the thoughtful comment once again Xprt.

I'll just respond to the "shades of grey" in regards to WHY people like the film:

I've never thought that people who like the film are wrong, and if I've ever given that impression, I apologize for that. I actually liked the movie pretty well. It might be a TOUCH long and have a bit of a drag in the middle, and the predictability got a little tiresome, but it's definitely an ENJOYABLE film. The comments section here has certainly blown up, but I try (usually unsuccessfully) to keep my reviews as succint and yet detailed as possible...discussing the merits of enjoying the film was something I didn't think added anything to the review itself other than length.

I would only argue that the "best movie ever" people are wrong...and I did post a comment somewhere stating that although I think they are wrong, I can actually see their side of the coin...from a certain standpoint it IS one of the best films ever. I just don't think it's the same TYPE of "good" that your typical Best Picture is. I would have absolutely no issues with the movie sweeping every single technical category and I think one could argue in favor of Cameron for Best Director, what with the innovative technologies and the way he uses his camera to excellent effect. I know that typically the Best Director's film wins Best Picture, but I think it'd be a joke if Avatar won Best Picture while a movie with a more original story was passed over...

The Oscars tend to be a joke anyway though...like I said, Best Director usually wins Best Picture - that's a flawed approach, IMHO...

as always, thanks for the comment once again

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Megavitamin Level 1 Commenter 2 years ago

Oh man, I had a lot to say about this movie when I walked out of the theater. I saw it in IMAX 3D, and the effects were obviously great. However, I'm not someone who gets caught up in that stuff, so I was looking for a story to carry me through the 3-hour running time--that story never came. The only thought I had was, "I liked this a lot better when their names were John Smith and Pocohontas" and I've never seen "Pocohontas"!

I agree with you on the weak acting, but I don't blame the actors themselves, I blame Cameron. The dialogue was absolutely terrible--the guy isn't a writer, he's a computer nerd. There was not one witty line in the entire film (although, I'm sure Mr. Cameron himself would disagree with me). Honestly, I have never rolled my eyes so much in a movie, nor laughed at inappropriate times because everything seemed so ridiculous.

I get that a lot of people loved it, but that's no reason to hand it the Best Picture Oscar. There has to be more to it than fancy eye-candy and a big-name director. When the film lacks amazing acting or even a DECENT script, there is no justifying that golden statue at the end of the night. Give James Cameron Best Director, whatever, but stay away from Best Picture please!

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jellydonut25 Hub Author 2 years ago

I almost whole-heartedly agree with you there mega...I just don't agree that Cameron should get best director...

My review and thoughts on this film might be a bit harsh, but I have nothing against its fans (with the exception of its fans who try to commit suicide so they can unleash the Na'vi inside their souls...) I can SEE how someone could think this is the best film of the year, but I don't agree with that point of view at all

thanks for the comment!

AmishElectric 2 years ago

First off, great review. I enjoy your writing and can't find one point that I disagree with you on.

I saw this movie for the first time in theaters last weekend and this was the most visually impressive movie I've ever seen. The 3D aspect didn't distract me from the story and you quickly forget your watching the picture in 3D.

Besides that, I was disappointed in the story. Throughout the movie I felt like I was watching a combination of Dances with Wolves, The Last Samurai, and Starship Troopers. The acting was simply average, and the only actor that stood out to me was Stephen Lang (he played a great villain). Because this movie set box office records, I assume that people who rarely see or attend movies went to see Avatar. This story may have seemed fresh to them, and this may account for why this movie has received rave reviews from the public.

I will be angry if this wins Best Picture over better films like The Hurt Locker and Up In The Air. I hope the academy doesn't feel public pressure to name this Best Picture because of the box office sales.

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jellydonut25 Hub Author 2 years ago

Thanks for the comment Amish! I'd say most of the people that I actually talk to on a daily basis who REALLY liked Avatar are not people who go to the movies very often...so I agree with your assessment there...

I was having a similar discussion today at work actually...

IlhanA 2 years ago

Well done! Although I have to say you spend too much of your valuable time on this!

I have seen Avatar, and even though the effects and CGI were great, the story has been done a million and one times before. Cameron now, reminds me of a baker: he has put so many layers of icing and decorations on the cake that he expects people not to notice that it is a simple and basic chocolate cake, however people did and are noticing. Frankly, I think he is undermining the intelligence that the general public have, and honestly, we played directly into his hands. Shame on us. And as for the Oscars, I would love for the Hurt Locker to win, because it is an amazing simple film, which is as it should be.

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HL allen 2 years ago

great review mate!

totally enjoyed reading it and I agreed on almost every point.I saw the film recently, and while it wasn't overly poor, i found it highly overrated.I especially liked it when you ripped it out of cameron and loved the line about the "shiny stuff trap" . You hit the nail on the head there, he is definately egotistic and arrogant(needless we be reminded of his frankly irritating oscar exeptance speech). But all in all, great review!

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jellydonut25 Hub Author 2 years ago

Ilhana, thanks for the comment and yes, I agree that Cameron is downplaying the intelligence of the story. I think that's the biggest reason why the backlash from the few people who don't love the film is as negative as it is. People who go to a lot of movies get offended when somebody patronizes them, and that's exactly what Avatar does. Let me assure you, my time is not THAT valuable...hehehe

allen, I definitely think Cameron is a big part of the reasons why this movie fails to deliver. That said, I'd potentially be MORE offended by a Best Director win for Cameron than a Best Picture win for Avatar at the Oscars.

Thanks for the comment!

emilan 2 years ago

Its interesting to note that the 3D is slightly different based on the type of theater you go to...

http://3dvision-blog.com/what-to-choose-imax-3d-ve

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jellydonut25 Hub Author 2 years ago

Thanks for the link and the comment emilan.

Interesting!

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2Tony 2 years ago

Hi jellydonut25

I've Just been reading HubPages link exchanges in the HubPages Knowledge Exchange forum. I thought link exchanging was frown on by HubPages but apparently not; so I have a number of Avatar hubs would you like to exchange links

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jellydonut25 Hub Author 2 years ago

Not really. I mean, if you want to link to my hub, I wouldn't have an issue with that, and if I were to link to your hub, I'd hope you wouldn't have an issue with it, but exchanging each other's links, while it might not be frowned on by HubPages just doesn't seem fair to me.

People should link to hubs from other autors because they want to and the content is relevant...not because the other author linked to their hub first...

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beccas90 Level 1 Commenter 2 years ago

Enjoyed reading your hub after seeing the movie during the Christmas holiday. It was a stunning movie for effects as I saw it in IMAX. I did enjoy the Star Trek movie as well even if people feel the effects were not as great - good story.

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